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Are aliens spiritual also? #3274
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Are they spiritual like us humans really?

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Originally Posted by frankie85
Are they spiritual like us humans really?

In short, why would they NOT be? Atheism is NOT the normal state of the human race, and it is hard to believe it would be any other race's normal state either.

Have you noticed that people only become atheists in advanced, affluent societies, where they think (invariably wrongly) that they can tend to their own needs without the help of any more powerful agent than themselves? And the result is invariably disastrous. The most monstrous crimes in human history have been committed by regimes (mostly Communist ones) that have practiced State Atheism as the official ideology.

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It is good to have you here Diego!

Im an alien ang We have divinity and a strong spirituality.


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You mean it`s a different between being a atheist and being spiritual?

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Re: Are aliens spiritual also? [Re: frankie85] #3282
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Originally Posted by frankie85
You mean it`s a different between being a atheist and being spiritual?

The definition of "spiritual" is, having to do with things of the spirit. An atheist does not believe in a spirit. How then, can he be spiritual in any sense?



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Originally Posted by Xeno
It is good to have you here Diego!

Im an alien ang We have divinity and a strong spirituality.

I believe that.

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Well I don`t believe in any gods but I`m still spritual

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Re: Are aliens spiritual also? [Re: frankie85] #3287
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Originally Posted by frankie85
Well I don`t believe in any gods but I`m still spritual

You may perhaps be mis-defining the term "spirit". If you believe that a spirit can only come from a Creator, then you have a serious problem being spiritual without having a Creator. Most atheists in my experience are materialists who do not believe in humans having spirits.

Now, if you are a Zen Buddhist, that is a bit of a different breed. Some of them do in fact believe in humans having spirits even though they reject God as a concept. I personally do not see how that point of view can be explained logically, but there ARE millions of humans who hold exactly that view. Then again, humans are not known for their logic.

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It`s just modern among less intelligent people who think we`re a brain, but there`s a spirit

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Agreed, we have a soul or "spirit"


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Re: Are aliens spiritual also? [Re: Xeno] #3339
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Agreed, all life has spirituality, why not? God gave it to us so why not other life.Yes they are,as you can see our resident alien also agrees.


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Originally Posted by MIB1
Agreed, all life has spirituality, why not? God gave it to us so why not other life.Yes they are,as you can see our resident alien also agrees.

To be fair, I don't think life can exist without having a level of spirit. Even dogs and cats have a certain level of spirit to them. "The glory of God is intelligence." Doctrine and Covenants 93, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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Agreed, you put it so eloquent, very intelligent answer, Diego,I also believe that. All gods creatures have spirituality, but souls are another matter.Do animals have souls,I don't believe that.Some people do,some treat thier pets like family and will say they do,they can develop personalities, somewhat,some say they just pick it up from thier owner, but souls I doubt it. What do you think?


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I think some animals have a soul


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Which ones?


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I believe animals have souls. As to whether those souls are on the level of human souls, I do not know, although I think the intricacy of one's soul depends on one's intellect. A whale or porpoise is as intelligent as a human. A dog is not. They both have souls. A porpoise would have a more intricate soul than a dog, but a dog still has a soul.

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Hmm,very well put, but I know humans (and aliens )must have soul,but I can't be sure, a dolphin has a bigger brian and orcas,than humans, most of that is tooken up by frontal lobes that is where thier sonar is,they learn by watching the hunting skills have been handed down from generation to generation. So I can't be sure they have a soul,intelligent yes,spiritual yes. Still to be proven that they have a soul.


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Re: Are aliens spiritual also? [Re: MIB1] #3358
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To be fair, it is still to be proven scientifically that a soul exists in anything, including humans. Every major religion says that a soul exists, and that people have one. Some religions, like Islam, specify that animals do not. Other religions, like Christianity, are quiet on the matter. But according to scientific data, the soul has not yet been found.

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Originally Posted by MIB1
Which ones?


I know for sure Godzilla my breaded dragon has one.

I was told once that there are aliens and humans that actually live without a soul


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That's terrible,do you have a soul,I know I do


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Re: Are aliens spiritual also? [Re: Xeno] #3366
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I suppose, if one is Stalin-like evil, and if Augustine was right, that every evil act makes the soul less existent, then one COULD render one's soul non-existent, or at least nearly so, by extremely evil acts. One could then live without a soul, or at least with only a very minimal one.

Augustine taught that a soul could not cease to exist entirely. But it could nearly do so, and only exist enough to be finally punished in Hell for its evil for all eternity.

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Of course I have a soul, a cosmic one and we love to test people.


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I think you are testing everyone, but not in a bad way.You are looking for the good in humanity, so am I. Hard to find sometimes.


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I am craving and seeking friendship for when will come the time to remember. I will need support if I want to stay the good sunshine monster I was known to be!


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