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Aliens or hyper evolved humans? #326
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I have a belief aka Theory that "Aliens" as we seem to perceive them are actually us (Humans) from some point in our future. Like way in the future, 1000's or tens of 1000's of years. They are a more evolved and completely different species than us. But they came from us. I believe that they are here because of a continuous loop of evolution. They seeded our planet with their DNA many tens of 1000's of years ago only for us to evolve into them and we will do the same once we are them. The way I see it we Humans have 3 stages of evolution in a cycle that has been going on since the formation of our universe. The earth is but one single planet involved in this never ending cycle of Seeding, Natural selection and evolving. We are in the middle stage now and will some day (10000+ years) be in the third and final stage and then seed a new planet ourselves. The reason for it is that once we are at the end of the third cycle we loose our ability to reproduce, even though we are living for 100's or even 1000's of years at that point. We would eventually die out if we didn't re seed a new planet and start the evolutionary cycle over again. So the "Aliens" we see watching over us studying us and tampering with our Nuclear programs, are simply future, evolved humanoids watching over and tending to their infants. Keeping us out of trouble and making sure we don't destroy ourselves. Just as we do with our own infants/offspring to ensure our own self preservation. They are simple preserving themselves. This is just my opinion. I welcome anyone else opinion in favor of or against mine. Thank you for taking the time to read my rants lol.

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Good idea!
But I think there's no hyper humans or evolved humans or...
It's just us, living on different planets...
and I believe, there was a life before us.. I mean, some humans were on Earth before Dinosaurs and Dinosaurs were on Earth before those humans, repeat this life cycle for like 4 or 5 times...



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Ya. that is quite possible as well. I do believe that we are part of a revolving cycle for sure.

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Aliens are NOT human! And not from the future. Every being in the universe started at as a human though. Right here on earth. But different periods through the past. We're all givin the same test, The same tools.( the bible). But given limited time. A huge disaster always happens at the end. Which is the apocalypse. Now, at this time, god chooses you or he leaves you to rot on a dying planet. Those who are left to rot end up becoming the aliens we know. Here's why. Aliens snatch you up and give you fake eternal life as their species called cloning since they can't have God's real eternal life. All aliens all come back to earth like clockwork every 12000 years or so hoping to recruit new humans that god doesn't want. So, when earth is facing a new apocalypse like the one that's happening now, all the abominations call aliens come back to earth to grab their share of God's rejects. DON'T BECOME A SOUL-LESS CLONE FOR ALL ETERNITY! PLEASE CHOOSE TO GO WITH YOUR LOVING CREATOR. GOD'S KINGDOM! The one who begins all life and love.

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the problem with this theory, in my opinion, is that DNA is not actually used to develop, we get our looks etc. by taking something from our mother, father, facial looks, the color of their eyes etc., but it`s not from the actually DNA, we get it by knowing it, lack in explaining, so back to the point, if aliens planted DNA on Earth, why don`t we look different than from before, i mean we have found skulls etc. way back, why haven`t we changed to look more like something else, like a different species, we should have taken some bits here and there, at least some, from another species, but i don`t see that we look different from normal human beings, what is your take on this matter,

which makes another point, if there actually are aliens on this planet, why aren`t anyone looking a little like aliens, we should have picked up some here and there, at least from some humans, what do you think?

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Thats exactly what Dr. Dan Burisch of MJ-12 discloses: that Grey aliens are actually hyper-evolved humans that travelled back in time (or back thru space). He even describes the different timelines they come from, namely P27, P45 and P52. The number meaning thousands of years into the future.

Check out Project Camelot, and any videos about Dr. Dan Burisch. He also goes by Dr. Dan Crain.

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Awesome! Thank you. I did not know of him or his theory. I just did a quick google search of him and he seems to have a few followers and some haters out there. I will do some more research into his work.

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The way I see it, The "Aliens" aka future humans merely altered or accelerated the evolution here on earth somewhere between 10-100 thousand years ago. So they aren't necessarily seeding all life in the entire universe. Just intervening in the process where it has already began. To steer it in the direction towards creating an earlier version of themselves.

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The way I see it, The "Aliens" aka future humans merely altered or accelerated the evolution here on earth somewhere between 10-100 thousand years ago. So they aren't necessarily seeding all life in the entire universe. Just intervening in the process where it has already began. To steer it in the direction towards creating an earlier version of themselves.

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i see, the aliens are not involved with our appearance, just the evolution speeding up the process, that`s difficult to do i think, because some one should have noticed a alien some time, but they have also so, it`s just a little weird i feel how humans look so human-like still, if they are more evolved it should be more attractive to look like them also, but i agree evolution is a slow process if that`s what you`re saying so you believe that all humans will look like aliens some day or something a little like?

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If you go to www.boblazar.com, u can look at the inner workings of the Grey alien flying disk "the Sports Model". One thing I noticed about the Sport Model disk is the components and workings of the craft seem almost "human-like". As in its not *too* strange, its almost like humans from the future, which is what Dan Burisch describes them as being.

Another ship Dan describes at S4 facility is the "licorice drop", which he says is "alien" as in not human based. I find this interesting as the technology of that craft is very alien and not human-like at all, as in the the layout and function of the Sport Model craft.

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The crashed disc from Roswell was known to have greek writing/symbolism on the inside of it as well.

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enjoyed the link, exciting reading about area 51 and discs

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From what Ive read and heard about Roswell, the aliens appeared human-like and child-like, and was described differently than the typical Grays.

And from what Dan Burisch has said about the P27 Terrestrial Roswell "aliens", they sound very much human like, but smaller.

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I agree with Paul Davies

"I think it very likely – in fact inevitable – that biological intelligence is only a transitory phenomenon, a fleeting phase in the evolution of the universe," Davies writes. "If we ever encounter extraterrestrial intelligence, I believe it is overwhelmingly likely to be post-biological in nature."

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblo...ion-of-the-universe-weekend-feature.html

Our own technology's seem to be trending towards this outcome.

Indeed SETI is now leaning towards the post biological hypothesis

https://www.seti.org/seti-institute/Search-Extraterrestrial-Life-Post-Biological-Intelligence-1

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...smos-is-probably-superintelligent-robots

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I agree with you. I believe time is not linear and therefore we have already evolved into aliens, yes. When we spot them we are having insights into ourselves. Just as we can experience the past, present and future at the same time in the form of dreams and deja vu.

The mind, or consciousness, in my opinion, is the most crucial and fundamental component of the human existence. E.g. you can lose a hand and live, you can lose all four limbs and live but you can't lose consciousness and live. Therefore the reasons aliens look as they do is because they are humans who have evolved away from the body being of such importance and are highly evolved beings of consciousness. Another theory that compliments this is that we have already lived on Mars before and burnt it and we are in the process of doing that to Earth. Perhaps we are slowly returning to the sun, as it is the ultimate energy source and that is where the aliens live waiting for our slow return. With their heatproof bodies. Some of the lessons we must learn on this planet is that the material is not of as much important as the mind or the soul. Everything burns in the sun. Everything material is temporal. Apart from the soul. The soul cannot be destroyed. The soul transcends time.

The soul and collective consciousness is what connects us all, as humans, it is the one thing we share, as well as the one thing we share with this planet and The Universe. Consciousness is of the highest importance. It is the screen on which everything is played. The quantum mind, the pineal gland and the vibrations at which we can attract/create whatever we can imagine is the way Aliens operate at a higher level of consciousness. This is how they have the ability to travel at such speeds and have such advanced technology. They are evolved humans. Our evolution is through our minds.

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I applaud your faith and beliefs, and it's certainly your right to opinion, however, I think you're wrong. What if EBE's, or "aliens," are exactly what The Bible explains? Back then, we couldn't handle science and had no idea what we were seeing. Imagine a spaceship or being not like you showing up and giving you knowledge? Of course one would think of it as a god. Who did the Egyptians, Myans, Aztecs... the list goes on, worship? There is so much evidence that we were visited thousands of years ago. Most religious people go straight to aliens being demons. Well, in a way, most of them are, as they are horrible beings, and demons are how people interpret them, but imagine in 100 years when there is 100% undeniable proof... humans in the future will be laughing at the ones today calling them demons.


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From what I could notice there is alot of them around and mostly acting human in the open of a public place for exemple. They are totaly demons. totaly! No I am joking... They are just people living their life trying to find what the [beep] is going on with humanity from Earth. They have been contributing to human DNA history and made some people ''boosted'' in some way. I do not really care what is written about them or anything I always been traveling to find my own truth and I could see alot. For sure they are present in history with some ''half'' them around with greater capacity than normal human being. But pointing anything with a finger saying yes or no it was them doesn't really matter much when you are interested on what is not written yet. So you can become a writter too! It is funny to see how much people are looking at the sky when they are all around us. I saw what's up there, it is saturated most of the time, well it was when I could see and it is not interesting. But around those aliens they may be a long time old friend and you don't even know.


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Us from the future is just possibility.

It could be that as Davies and others are now starting to suspect that sentience eventually upgrades itself beyond biological substrates.
If the vast bulk of space faring sophonts are indeed post biological then finding native bioforms like us would be like us finding a lost tribe of neanderthals in a jungle somewhere.

This might explain the hands off aspect we see.

I think its important to differentiate between AI and SI here

Synthetic intelligence (SI) is an alternative term for artificial intelligence which emphasizes that the intelligence of machines need not be an imitation or any way artificial; it can be a genuine form of intelligence John Haugeland proposes an analogy with simulated diamonds and synthetic diamonds—only the synthetic diamond is truly a diamond. Synthetic means that which is produced by synthesis; combining parts to form a whole, colloquially, a man-made version of that which has arisen naturally. As defined, a "synthetic intelligence" would therefore be man-made, but not a simulation.

If SI is the natural evolutionary path for intelligence, then we as native biological intellegence may be a minority, a less evolved form of intellect, in a galaxy populated by the more evolutionary advanced SI's

The majority of intellect inhabiting the galaxy/universe being SI in nature as per Davies theory


But how would such an entity/s reproduce should it desire to do so ?
It could copy itself, but thats a bit like playing chess in the mirror

One option would be to recreate the circumstances of its own creation.

Seed a planet with suitable biological progenitors, tweak them to the point they can create their own technology and finally their own SI's

In this way a unique SI could be created in the image of its creators, with its own unique "flavour"

We may just be the factory workers, not the final product being built.

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Another example of convergent technology



The Hive mind getting closer......


Last month, researchers created an electronic link between the brains of two rats separated by thousands of miles. This was just another reminder that technology will one day make us telepaths. But how far will this transformation go? And how long will it take before humans evolve into a fully-fledged hive mind? We spoke to the experts to find out.
I spoke to three different experts, all of whom have given this subject considerable thought: Kevin Warwick, a British scientist and professor of cybernetics at the University of Reading; Ramez Naam, an American futurist and author of NEXUS (a scifi novel addressing this topic); and Anders Sandberg, a Swedish neuroscientist from the Future of Humanity Institute at the University of Oxford.
They all told me that the possibility of a telepathic noosphere is very real — and it’s closer to reality than we might think. And not surprisingly, this would change the very fabric of the human condition.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/how-much-longer-until-humanity-becomes-a-hive-mind-453848055?IR=T


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For writer Stephen Cave, author of the new book Immortality, digital immortality does not refer to the "legacy" we have left on our Facebook pages. Cave's book explores the quest to live for ever and how – he believes – it has been the driving force behind civilisations,

Which beggers the question do all civilisations chase this prize ?

ie Is ET post biological ?

"So your brain is scanned and your essence uploaded into a digital form of bits and bytes, and this whole brain emulation can be saved in a computer's memory banks ready to be brought back to life as an avatar in a virtual world like Second Life, or even in the body of an artificially intelligent robot that is a replica of who we were."

For Dr Stuart Armstrong, the rise of the idea of digital immortality is due to the realisation that this time – perhaps – we actually have the key to immortality in our hands. Dr Armstrong is research fellow at the Future of Humanity Institute, University of Oxford.
"Technology is now advancing faster and faster and we understand it a lot better because we built it ourselves. So the problems that digital immortality is facing are merely engineering problems – albeit complicated and difficult ones – that could be solved within the decade if we decided to set up a scheme on the scale of the Manhattan Project."
In particular, he feels that "scanning is the critical problem" and that if you "spent stupid amounts of cash then within a decade many of the limitations of scanning, such as its resolution, could be solved".

Dr Randal A. Koene, though, is determined to take digital immortality from the pages of books like Cave's and turn it into reality. Koene is founder of the non-profit Carbon Copies Project in California, which is tasked with creating a networking community of scientists to advance digital immortality – "although I prefer to talk about substrate-independent minds, as digital immortality is too much about how long you live, not what you can do with it".

And for Koene it is very much "you", there being a "continuity of self" in the same way that "the person you are today is still the same person you were when you were age five".
"This isn't science fiction, either, this is closer to science fact," he argues. Carbon Copies "is working to create a road map to substrate independence by pulling together all the research that is going on, identify where the gaps are and then what we need to do to plug it.

For Koene, human societies have faced these kinds of problems many times before. What matters more, he believes, is that digital immortality is the next stage of human evolution as it will "allow us as a species to have the flexibility to survive the process of natural selection that every species has to face", whether on this planet or another.

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Hyper evolved humans... ?? what do you mean? Humans from other planets that has older evolution or what?


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“It’s going to happen,” he said. “This has the potential to alter the evolutionary direction of the human race.”


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The first step will be to create a direct neural link to information. Think of it as a "telepathic Google."

The next step will be to develop brain-computer interfaces that augment the visual cortex, the best-understood part of the brain. This would boost our spatial visualisation and manipulation capabilities. Imagine being able to imagine a complex blueprint with high reliability and detail, or to learn new blueprints quickly. There will also be augmentations that focus on other portions of sensory cortex, like tactile cortex and auditory cortex.
The third step involves the genuine augmentation of pre-frontal cortex. This is the Holy Grail of IA research -- enhancing the way we combine perceptual data to form concepts. The end result would be cognitive super-McGyvers, people who perform apparently impossible intellectual feats. For instance, mind controlling other people, beating the stock market, or designing inventions that change the world almost overnight. This seems impossible to us now in the same way that all our modern scientific achievements would have seemed impossible to a stone age human -- but the possibility is real.

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" So the "Aliens" we see watching over us studying us and tampering with our Nuclear programs, are simply future, evolved humanoids watching over and tending to their infants. Keeping us out of trouble and making sure we don't destroy ourselves"

I like your theory but if this was the case then wouldn't they have stopped all over our previous great wars and earth disasters? My beliefs are as follows, but they also contradict but mat maybe someone can shed some light?

I believe we are a hybrid race put here by the Annunaki, and they have over time been visiting us

I also believe that when we dropped the first atomic bomb other alien races then took interest in us/discovered us for the first time and that some races are looking over us, as a protector.

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one thing is for sure there is alot of disinformation to turn your eyes away from the truths that there were much more highly intelligent life wich gave man a leg up on the roughness of life on this planet. take for instance the old ancient writtings of not just hebrew but the people from the anceint times describes giants who ruled the land they were refred to as the watchers who cross breeded with the female human dna. creating a what was called evil twist of things to be handed down from generation to generation. dont ever think for one second man just accidently became full of knowledge....many civializations even talk about the ones who came fro the stars. so no matter what some [beep] in suit or position says they are clueless to not acknolodge these truths maybe they are part of the scheme to cover up things.


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