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Did aliens create humans? #152
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Hey guys.

I started to post this as a response to another post, then i realized that it could maybe make an interesting write-up on it's own.
I thought i'd share my thoughts on this matter and hopefully spark an interesting (and civil) debate, and maybe be shown evidence in the contrary to my beliefs. I'm always looking to expand my beliefs when justified.
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I think the evidence is very strong that we have been visited for thousands, tens of thousands, or even millions of years, and there's a small chance that they helped humans to make the evolutionary leap between animals and "humans".

But did they? Did they create us? Why would they waste the effort?

Neanderthals were cousins to us (and were so close, that we could and DID intermingle and re-produce with them. In fact, it's now believed that the majority of them were not killed off, did not starve to death, etc, but were bred out of existence.) They had language, thought, common sense, and all of the things that we consider to be "human", they just lacked "art" which seems to be the ultimate definition of humanity when it comes down to what science considers "human". They struggle to answer "what is alive" and "what makes us human". They can't answer it.... Every time they try, they find an exception and have to change the definitions.

The more we learn about other animals on our own planet, the more we realize that we are NOT unique, nor are we all that special. Thinking that humans are superior to all other earth species is very much a Victorian era misconception.

Like for example..... "All animals are basically machines. They have no emotions, they can't really think for themselves, have no common sense and are basically meat sacks that eat, breed, and sleep...." They also believed that women fell mostly into the same description and category, therefore had no rights, couldn't run companies, couldn't vote or own land.... Today, most of us know that neither of these things are true.... most..... of us...

Today, we know that even though we can't understand what blackbirds are saying to each-other, they DO in fact communicate and teach each other things through verbal communication. The same goes for dolphins. Dolphins have an entire language built around the sounds they make. But since we can't understand them, most people assume that they are just making random noises. We are only VERY recently, beginning to crack their dialects, and attempts have been made to communicate with them using their own language (with some limited success).

But what it really means, is that they are using a totally new / different type of communication from what we are using, which may even be more efficient, and since we don't use it, we cannot crack it. It's much like the way in which we cannot unlock the way our brains work, because we're using our own brains to figure it out.

point is, we are animals, just the same, but have superior tool making and critical thinking skills over previous versions of humans.

So here is my argument AGAINST aliens "making us".
Most people assume that evolutionary jumps happened all at once ... "and THEN there were Neanderthals all of the sudden, out of nowhere." People tend to believe this, because the fossils they find tend to jump large quantities of time, which is mostly because it's kind of difficult to make a fossil in the first place..

When in reality, it took hundreds of thousands of years of evolution to change them from their predecessors into neanderthals, and it took us EXACTLY the same amount of time to turn human as it did for them to become neanderthals, ---because we both stemmed from the same ancestors... Homo Habilis... which is why we are cousins. AND... both Humans and Neanderthals had 1 evolution of being between Homo Habilis and human/neanderthal.

Up until RECENTLY, it was taught in public school, that Humans evolved from Neanderthals...Even when i was in school, in the 80s and 90s!!!! WHY was this taught? Because Neanderthals were primarily European, and generally accepted as "White"... No well taught, upper class conservative white man, was going to admit that humans came from AFRICA. In fact, i remember specifically when this was HOTLY debated! "Humans evolved in Africa!" there were HUGE arguments against it. (((Look at what people think of as a "cave man". it's a white, hairy man, hunched over holding a big ass club... not some African with animal bones and teeth shoved through his nose and ears with paint all over them...


SO... since there is hundreds of millions of years of evolutionary history, it does not make sense that Aliens created us.

An argument against that is "well maybe they were the ones who flipped the switch and made us smart" but we've already discussed that several creatures including neanderthals, homo floriensis, homo sapiens, homo naledi, homo rudolfensis and homo habilis were ALL intelligent (and so are dophins, crows, and several other creatures)..

and.... Lets say they did start coming here 2 million years ago, and screwing with our DNA to ultimately produce humans...

why?

ANY alien, which can possibly fly tens, hundreds or thousands of light years to our planet, would have NO reason to put the time and effort into gently massaging our DNA to make us evolve slightly over time to eventually become the superior species of our planet? {{ it would be more prudent to selectively breed }}

Any alien with that type of technology, first of all, to fly across time and space to be here, and second of all, gently persuade our DNA, would have the ability to say "look at this earth monkey.. i'm going to cross it with a Drygonian Stink Ape from Zygon 5 and we'll call it a Human! They could literally synthesize our DNA FROM SCRATCH and create exactly the creature they wanted, in 1 generation, then take it with them.... not 4 million generations, and leave it to it's own devices on a random planet to potentially fail.... and....... for what purpose??? they have no need at all for Humans. EARTH doesn't even have a need for humans.

Also, almost every dog we know about today, was created in the 1800's over a few generations by rich women who had nothing better to do than to create new dogs... seriously... If we can create a few HUNDRED dog species through selective breeding in 50 years or less, then, an alien can create exactly what they want in 1 generation, and even if selective breeding, could make it happen in 100 years or less. So there is no logical reason for them to have created us -at-all.

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That's my opinion...

I don't think they created us.... they had no reason to.

BUT.... i do think they have been watching us closely, because, we will eventually be able to travel through the stars ourselves, and they want to make sure we aren't all Nuke Happy invaders..... and, while they are here, it's a great opportunity for their science to gather data about long term evolution.

I also believe that they have steered us in certain directions, persuaded people in charge to do certain things and ultimately swayed progress, and if we weren't so war-like as a species, then we probably would have been traveling the stars ourselves about four hundred years ago. By that i mean, consider exactly what we have RIGHT NOW... and we would have had that 1000 years ago and 600 years later, we would have been traveling into deep space.. whereas, now we are looking at about another 1000 years before we can POTENTIALLY get there.

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what's your take??? You can either agree or completely disagree, i don't mind, it's my opinion. i want to hear yours.

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Ahhh.. I don´t think they created us. But I think we probably share some DNA.

Neil de Grasse Tyson for example thinks it is likely that some extremophile came with a meteor or similar and that´s where life began. So maybe, we share that.

And most likely, the have studied us and have done some research and experiments. As far as research knows by now, it is not possible to travel normally faster than with speed of light. So they must have found a way to create some wormhole or something like that in order to reach us. And it is quite possible, that they would be able to do time travelling if they are able to travel in any way faster than light. Otherwise, they must have been flying since generations. Well, that´s possible too.

Also something to think about: If they would be able to look at the earth right now from a very distant inhabited planet, they would probably see the earth as she was when for example the dinosaurs lived here because the light needs so much time to travel.

So but what´s the point? No, I don´t think that they change our DNA over centuries and step by step. That would not make any sense. We are just envolving. And assuming, that we become more intelligent from generation to generation and that we share a common field of information (possibly also with aliens from outer space), we would be able to gather information by them
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I think they would only be here to
a) study us
b) benefit from us (DNA experiments or other resources)
c) live here because their planet has become inhabitable

BUT: If the time runs much faster for them than for us (time-space-stuff), then why not? Maybe then for them, 1000000 years of earth time is only 5 years for them. - but i don´t think they are so stupid and just let us destroy the planet. Which we actually do. Also, there seems to be some evidence though, that they stopped nuclear weapons.

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After all, I think, they would be able to destroy the planet and everything. But they simply don´t do it or have not done it by now. I wonder what would happen, if we would find a planet with life which is not as advanced as we are. I am quite sure, the responsible ones would not treat them as nice as they treat us. If the other planet had ressources we would need, we would just take it.


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Nice! So much to comment on but I have to go to sleep. Can't wait to get back to this

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yes im sure of this

in the distant past the ancient aliens have manipulated our DNA to improve ourselves and to be able to serve one day and to thank them with gratitude

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Hi Alien Anarchist

Why do you think so - or why are you so sure?


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I THINK THIS BECOUSE I HAVE STUDY! LOL! typing

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Well, if you did study this, then I am sure, you will be able and willing to argue why.
If I told you I knew for sure that there were aliens on Venus or Stromboli, then guess what, you would like to know from where I have that "knowledge".


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Originally Posted by sanna
Ahhh.. I don´t think they created us. But I think we probably share some DNA.

Neil de Grasse Tyson for example thinks it is likely that some extremophile came with a meteor or similar and that´s where life began. So maybe, we share that.

[[[ Yeah! The funny thing is if we find life on mars, either currently alive or fossil, and we sliced them apart, we would almost definitely find that they had DNA related to ours. People would use that as proof to say that all life in the universe is related, whereas, it's more likely that life started on mars, and was spread to earth. It is also just as likely that as you said, here is my theory... every star forms from the guts of previous stars in nurseries formed from supernovas of larger stars.

My theory is that there was a star, which had a planet which had life. It's star exploded into a supernova, extremophiles floated out into space, our star formed in the supernova, sucked up dust and dirt and gasses which eventually became planets. The sun cleared up most of the gasses and moved away from it's birthplace. The planets were formed and extremophile eventually spawned life on mars, which formed before earth, and was hit by several large meteors ejecting life into space again and ultimately landing on earth....

OR........ consider that the building blocks of life.. amino acids, various chemicals etc are found on every planet and every moon and every asteroid in our galaxy..

Scientists HAVE created RNA in labs. They basically recreated the conditions that were on earth throughout it's history. Take chemical 1, and apply the conditions of early earth then apply chemical 2 and apply a different type of light etc etc and each chemical created other chemicals and became RNA which is literally life and evolved into DNA after a short time.

So with that theory, life is EVERYWHERE and when we look we will find it everywhere.

The real test will be if we do find life elsewhere, whether their genetics also use DNA or something else. 100% of life we have ever discovered in earth shares the same DNA. So either other variants did not survive or it is impossible to survive any other way!...]]]

And most likely, the have studied us and have done some research and experiments. As far as research knows by now, it is not possible to travel normally faster than with speed of light. So they must have found a way to create some wormhole or something like that in order to reach us. And it is quite possible, that they would be able to do time travelling if they are able to travel in any way faster than light. Otherwise, they must have been flying since generations. Well, that´s possible too.

[[[ Yeah given einsteinian and newtonian physics we can't travel faster than light etc, but humans have actually found ways to do it, but cannot create enough power to do it... this is real, not conspiracy theory.. a scientist figure it out but he showed that it would take more energy than the entire universe to do it. A few years later someone figured out that it would only take a few years worth of current power production of earth, which, today sounds crazy... but. Given perspective, our iPhones and Samsung's have 100x the processing power than every computer that was operational at the time of the moon landing at NASA. This is like someone in the pre-industrial days looking at the first few steam engines and trying to grasp today's coal plants wind farms nuclear plants and solar plants and the amount of power they produce. It wasn't possible then. But in a few years it will be possible to power an FTL ship. ]]]


Also something to think about: If they would be able to look at the earth right now from a very distant inhabited planet, they would probably see the earth as she was when for example the dinosaurs lived here because the light needs so much time to travel.

[[[ Yeah through Einstein's theories if they were traveling faster than light it may literally be the same 20 or 30 aliens that have been visiting us for thousands or millions of years, and a matter of a few years may have passed for them if each encounter is only a few minutes. In which case it kind of sea make sense that they would have tweaked our DNA just to see what would happen..... (though I refer to the fact that there is ZERO NEED to manipulate DNA on such a long scale since DNA changes itself. To affect change, it would only take introducing one male and one female and letting them make babies who make babys.... which is exactly what normal evolution is. And thinking that aliens manipulated our DNA is childish and immature, and basically admits that they believe we are more important or somehow better than every other animal on earth.... and we definitely arent... not by a long shot... ]]]



So but what´s the point? No, I don´t think that they change our DNA over centuries and step by step. That would not make any sense. We are just envolving. And assuming, that we become more intelligent from generation to generation and that we share a common field of information (possibly also with aliens from outer space), we would be able to gather information by them
unconsciously.

I think they would only be here to
a) study us
b) benefit from us (DNA experiments or other resources)

[[[ I find it highly likely that they farm our DNA. Everyone knowns about hybrids, and i believe this is a legitimate reason for them to be here... basically not to create us as a species, which is a very presumptions and elitist approach to the theory, but more likely to alter their own species which may be dying off, may have run out of genetic diversity, may need to be more like us or gather our genes for long term survivability, or maybe even to create a superior race to us, which we will encounter once we are among the stars too.

All of these hybrids they are creating will eventually come out in the open once we travel out into the stars. It may even be that at some point they will form their own civilization and part ways with the greys and either compete with us, or join with us I'm harmony, or... wipe us the [beep] out.... ]]]

c) live here because their planet has become inhabitable

[[ I'm the case of the greys I imagine that happened a long time ago. I'll say maybe a few thousand years (according to space time not earth years). I personally do not believe that the greys are WAYA MORE advanced than us. We are not talking millions of years. Any civilization which has evolved millions or 10s of milkions of 100s of millions of years beyond us would be unfathomable to us. It would be like communicating with an ameoba... they have zero reason to do so and would not benefit from it whereas we wouldn't even know they existed....

However another great possibility is that almost every culture and species creates robots and technology and almost invariably combine themselves with the robots and technology to become immortal. ]]

BUT: If the time runs much faster for them than for us (time-space-stuff), then why not? Maybe then for them, 1000000 years of earth time is only 5 years for them. - but i don´t think they are so stupid and just let us destroy the planet. Which we actually do. Also, there seems to be some evidence though, that they stopped nuclear weapons.
[[YES HEARD all of the stories about aliens vs nukes. ]]

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After all, I think, they would be able to destroy the planet and everything. But they simply don´t do it or have not done it by now. I wonder what would happen, if we would find a planet with life which is not as advanced as we are. I am quite sure, the responsible ones would not treat them as nice as they treat us. If the other planet had ressources we would need, we would just take it.

[[[[ DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMANS AND ALIENS..

Aliens come here and remain elusive. They study but do not make themselves known.

If we found a less advanced alien race and only had 1 ship that could make the voyage, we would leave them alone. Study from a distance.

If there were thousands of ships that could make the voyage...

1. Christians would be the first ones there to spread Jesus rhetoric.
2. Prosoectors would be there ASAP illegally to start looking for resources.
3. Humans would kill off anyone who taught back including local intelligent species and anything alive with sharp teeth that threatened them.
4. Government would claim the planet for humans and would "GIVE" the locals designated areas.
5. If physically possible, humans would absolutely without a doubt, have sex with them... maybe they would be able to reproduce or maybe not....
6. There would definitely be illegal sex trades and sex slavery, humans would go into vilages and [beep], murder and pillage and everything else, just like we always have. Except now we have fully automatic weapons...
7. Strip mining operations. Entire forests would be demolished looking for gold and huge pits would be dug in the ground...

Then eventually after almost everything and everyone was killed off we would say "[beep]..... we did it again" and people would start throwing money at it and call it a "protected planet" which of course would cause a lot of the smugglers To go underground....

Why do I say this? Because that is human nature it is what we currently do and have always done since before the days of the caveman. We THINK we are civilized but we do the same [beep] we have always done regardless of laws. And in some countries there still aren't any laws really... so that's my theory, as pessimistic as it may sound, I feel like it's true because people suck!


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In order for me to answer if aliens created humans, I would have to ask aliens themselves(from a deductive reasoning standpoint). Regardless of any specialized person or advocate inadvertently acknowledging the existence of aliens to begin with, the inquiry us being an alien comes into play. Most likely, if we are assuming the natural order of our understanding goes to a universal level. Not to state the obvious(but I'll do it anyway). What can be grasped is we govern, on a physical reality, this earth as we plainly see it. I'll roll with the assumed reality that aliens exist. If they were to create us, we would have to be believe they are real to begin with. In my opinion, evidence is across the board, and one does not require a declassified government document to appease the reality of a given viewpoint. In simplest terms, to answer the basic title question, assuming my answer is no. Following suit to say that if they do exist, they have an interest in our genetics. Look at cattle-mutilation or alien abduction claims for points of possible legitimacy. Let alone megalithic structures, remains, and artifacts that quite possibly have a direct link to that answer if they did "create" us. My question relating to that would be, as an open ended and rhetorical question: Why would alien life not go public to all of us, assuming they exist, and have our best interest at hand as humanity, that they in fact did create us? Wouldn't the potter eventually take a piece of work off the shelf to admire it once in a awhile? The definiton of alien is a broad one, especially in this context. Good question though. I believe the answer may be bigger than yes or no. What came first the chicken or the egg? Try that one out.

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Yeah interesting point. I think some people would answer (not me necessarily) "they haven't disclosed their existence because a) they have an insidious agenda that blah blah blah. b) we need to reach a heightened level of enlightenment and blah blah blah before they do. c) blah blah blah government conspiracy blah blah #legalize it blah blah....

Or something along those lines...

Personally I'm on the fence about lack of disclosure but I believe they are there. I believe in the proposed fact that there are aliens that visit us over and organized religion or faith.

But ironically my belief in aliens would technically be "faith based" so is it really any different?

I've never to my knowledge seen a grey. I have seen "people" that just didn't seem right. I have promised to post about that but haven't yet. But I have definitely seen tons and tons of ufos over the span of my life... origin unknown but presumed alien.

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Neanderthals did have art, much much older art than modern human's ever produced. They made jewelry as well out of seashells and things of such and had a manufacturing process to fixing stone tools to this day that isn't fully understood, they did it with heating tree sap and other elements but due to its incredible complexity none of our great minds of today have been able to recreate the process. They recently discovered Neanderthals we're also building structures "building's" nearly 200,000 years ago and probably had been for many more millennia before that. They took better care of they're elderly than most modern human's do today, let alone some middle ages or dark age societies, Neanderthals definitely more routinely displayed greater moral intelligence than ever displayed for the most part by homosapiens. Each country with a greater amount of archaic (Neanderthal/ Denisovan) DNA mixed into their major ethinical populaces (Neanderthals/Europeans - Denisovans/ Asains) have been the most prosperous by far since about the turn of the slant eye mutation showing up in China and the blonde hair mutation showing up around the black sea in Europe. The Neanderthal brain also had a greater volume, it was bigger than our modern [beep] sapien brain. I think the modern homosapien was just more of a fast breeding rabbit like humanoid who choked the Neanderthal out of existence. Maybe the alien intervention was insuring this breeding or splicing to take place to slow down the advancement of the Neanderthal species. Once the human and Neanderthal hybrids had enough time to mate out all of the undesirable and less inclined half breeds humanity exploded like a bomb. Homosapiens it's obvious we're gonna breed fast one way or another but is fast breeding alone a sign of greater intelligence? Plenty of more inclined carnivorous predators have been beat out by lesser inclined carnivores due to sheer volume of population before.

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Aliens did not create Humans but have interacted with the human race over the ages mostly positive but once very negative, At least four types of Human Alien Hybrids exist into the modern era of today. I myself confirmed by DOD testing am a alien human hybrid with advanced nano technology woven into my being along with other exotic technologies. DOD tested me to the extreme and found that I have neuro regenerative ability and am resistant to most of the most lethal diseases. I have been infected with Ebola, anthrax, mutated peumonic plague, aids, HTLV, small pox and such. The worse they do is give me a slight skin rash or issue like a minor cold for few days. My spinal cord ruptured in seven places and healed in 24 hours, I have been given a lethal dose of nerve agent 800 times the fatal level in a DOD facility and walked out. I lift four hundred pounds dead lift four feet, and drag pull 800 with one arm. I am a product of crashed warp ship that crashed on earth about eight thousand years ago.

As I child I swallowed both mercury and toxic liquid metals by accident and urinated them out unharmed. I was bit by two rabid animals in CT did not develop rabies and sermon was collected from me by Hartford hospital in CT for years as part of a Eugenics experiment that got out of control.
I have used a singularity gate to conference with the leaders of our society been the bridge of capital ships in orbit by singularity gate do to an out of control eugenics program in CT that had to be shut down by our civilization as danger to earth.

We have been battling for about four thousand years and enemy race of Human hybrids that landed on Thera Island. These are from a civilization we warred to extinction with that enslaved and modified species for use in there war effort. They gained control of the eugenics program in Hartford my civilization sent star ships to investigate.

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My actual birth mother is UK Citizen of high noble rank descended from Eleanor of Aquitaine, I was given to a family in the United States to care for, that families male son died at birth and I took his place in Hartford Hospital. I rose from those humble beginnings in poverty to be the Nuclear Launch Command officer for 1/3 our Nuclear Arsenal. While in the military and in CT as a child I took several friends to aspects of our civilization and showed them it's construction in another dimension of creation. They rose to be the leaders of IT for Japan and Architects and engineers of great renowned from humble beginnings at FT Benning Georgia I was summoned to meet with the Supreme Commander of our Military forces during a defense in place. The soldiers I was with were drawn up to another planet in the universe a desert one while I conversed with the Supreme commander in a tent and then we returned. he wanted to assess my condition as result of the toxic material I ate as Child and Rabies that Hartford Hospital left untreated as a Eugenics test. He was not pleased and three warp capital ships are now on station along with huge surge in UFO activity and the deployment of two massive aircraft carriers with advanced warp and air breathing fighters on board one in the Pacific and one in the Atlantic

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My wife and I are Human Alien Hybrids with woven in organic and mono atomic level nano technology we can shape shift among other things and appear as alien race members . We carry two different forms of nano technology that is compatible with each other from allied alien races from long ago. One race with a large history of contact through the ages from China to Europe are the elves. My wife carries Elvin nano tech among others. That tech and genetic engineering came form the Star Ship Seed Ship CDR's race. In the town of Colebrook NH I arranged a singularity gate meeting between a colony world female Elvin rep of that race that is close to us in this Galaxy and NASA, DNA samples were exchanged at local village restaurant watched over by Greek Commandos and the Mossad. They have slow ship asteroid ship boosted by nuclear propulsion coming to us. The enemy human alien race that had the Seed Ship Commander hostage for almost four thousand years virtually destroyed their planet with chemical and biological war. sing cellar phone liek communications technology. They live long breed slow and it took almost two thousand years to recover from the war. Their asteroid ship carries nuclear weapons, space to surface fighter bombers but no chemical or biological weapons. They are skilled in genetic repair and cancer treatment from the damage of the war that almost destroyed them. We have established a formal singularity gate at NASA mission control high security to address crimes by these enemy human alien hybrids like the Vegas gambler shooter. The gate leads to a highly advanced Star ship cutting edge technology of the Clock Tower Civilization. If peaceful contact is made by both sides we have promised to install a singularity high security gate from the slow ship asteroid ship to their home Colony World. Over my wife's shoulder on the Horizon is a burning Venezuelan Navy Task Force of Missile Cruisers and Surface ships. We seized super tankers bound for oil platforms off LA California that were going to smuggle oil to North Korea for a kick back to the state of California. We fitted the peace enforcer ships in french yards with the best supersonic European Cruise Missiles that were used in Syria. These are vertical launch. We also have vertical launch fighter bombers on our three ships and compartments for our Delta forces. Before the arrival of the warp capital ships we used these ships equipped with Google and Apple AI systems to smash and sink the Venezuelan Navy task force that was getting components for nuclear weapons from a CadCam shop that also supported North Korea from freighters going to the Panama canal The three ships are named the Pearl, Exciter and Scepter a fourth one the Imperator under the control of another of our Clan's is being fitted for service. During my wife;s operation we sunk more ship tonnage than any force since World War Two. My wife, like me was born and placed,she was born into the family of Lord Mountbatten cared for and raised well. My wife an I are almost sixty years old will live to eighty or ninety with proper diet and exercise then pass or possibly be transferred by high technology to genetically engineered bodies of the clock Tower Civilization.

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Re: Did aliens create humans? [Re: Alienarchist] #739
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Which would explain where The Bible and other religious books came from. I have no doubt we were visited based upon all the evidence at ruins spread throughout the world. I personally feel we were created to be controlled and used for our psychic energy, but at some point, mostly in the past 100 years, we became more intelligent and are fighting back.


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I wish I had the answer. Maybe I do but don't remember.. Who knows? One thing for sure is that aliens has influenced the ''normal'' evolution of human being on Earth. Also I could notice human anatomy being present from other planets wich is not really... natural... Seeing the same biological base on different planets that has different conditions for life development is shady. I tried investigating the origin of human genetic to find out the ''starting point'' in wich humanity would have started and then eventually spread. It is not from Earth since more developed version of human are present on other planets. Either mankind is a developed specy that is for some reason being populated on a planet or mankind from other planet has reached to progress to spread itself but for some reason maintain a self-censor on Earth. One thing sure, humans are not only from Earth and humanity is a word that mean larger than most of the people would think.

One thing that is clear. human evolution on Earth is not natural and an exo interference is obvious!


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Its a good question.

The other animals aspect is a good one, they use language and some even make and use tools.

What sets us apart is our creation and harnessing of external energy sources, and that is something that we would share with sparefaring sophonts.

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The degree of sophistication is vastly different but the underlying principle is a common one.

Once a species starts to manipulate energy to serve its purpose, its on its way to the stars imo.

Its what we would unconsciously notice were we to visit another biosphere, not the tool users. The energy manipulators.

The moment we started using fire, we got noticed i suspect, and marked as potential spacefarers.

But there is another aspect thats playing out here at least (though i could speculate its a common theme)

And thats a bioform starts making tools, until eventually the tools start making them.


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ANY alien, which can possibly fly tens, hundreds or thousands of light years to our planet, would have NO reason to put the time and effort into gently massaging our DNA to make us evolve slightly over time to eventually become the superior species of our planet? {{ it would be more prudent to selectively breed


I speculate on this here:


https://www.aliendisc.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/734/why-so-many-medical-examinations#Post734

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I like that image, but I tweaked it to show my understanding
The order below should be viewed from opposite, right to left,
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Greys discovered dinosaurs
The Earth was lush, the dinos were divine
They added an equal sized moon, creating a duality planet
The animals lost their might, but gained a reliance on atmosphere


When a species that resembled a humanoid formed (the gorilla) they added a small 1/900th section of their own genes
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The DNA itself is poor quality maybe 1/8th as nice as animal DNA although it is sat for 50 zillion years so its more sophisticated
anyone can locate it and deactivate it easily as it is barely holding on humans regularily have it activated because it was more

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I understand that we have different beliefs.
But we all know that the government knows about the alians and they don't wanna let us know about it.
I don't think humanity evolved from other genus we're all created by something.
Its up to us to find out what created us and why. but for that its too late now, the government already know about how we came to existence but the will never share with us they seek power and control. I believe alians exists and they been with for many years now.

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